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  • the world doens't hate graffiti... the property owners that have graffiti on their property hate graffiti. graffiti is art and no one will ever be able to stop graffiti artists from expressing themselves and tagging up walls or trains or buildings. you keep on painting over it, but we'll always be there tagging up over it again. dont you realize that this is an equalibrium. your never going to cover all the graffiti, you are covering it up as fast as we're putting it back. maybe if towns and cities gave permission for artists to graffiti their art on certain walls, there would be less illegal graffiti and more possitive graffiti.

    graffiti is an amazing thing that represents self image, personality, reflection, and displays the principals of art such as value, line, image, texture. graffiti is art, not vandalizm, and i think its funny that your trying to stop it.

    -signed,
    you can cover my tags all you want, but i'm just going to graff right over it. ;-) (Sep 23, 2002)
  • You guys/gals have a cute little board going here, but I've noticed a lot of quite humorous posts. I know and appreciate a bit about graffiti culture and what amuses me is that many of you anti-graff people seem to think that by removing a piece of graffiti that you've somehow "won."

    you should probably start realizing that writers don't expect their piece to stay up for very long, especially in busy places. as far as going out at night, it's to avoid getting caught, not out of shame. avoiding detection and getting tags washed away two days after making them is all part of the game. so next time you wash away a tag, don't think that the writer is sitting at home crying that it's gone. he knows it's gone, expects it to be gone, and is probably already working on a new one. graffiti is, by nature, illegal. anti-graffiti efforts are part of what graffiti is about. they'll keep writing, you'll keep fighting. you don't have to respect it, just realize that writers expect resistance to what they do.

 

  • i love to paint on stuff i paint on every thing from schools to signs to cars to highways to bridges to mabey even your house randy. i skratch tags in glass use etchbath on windos i run from the police i explode bombs and smoke crack and shootup herion im your every day gangsta ma fuka bangin gangs and cappin foos g iges im your regular every day scum of the planit VANDAL

 

  • dont u think that Murder, Drug dealers, Rape, Robbery, Starvation in 3rd world countries, People living in poverty in so called "civalised" countries are just a tad more important than a bit of harmless art on the walls? i cant think of one country that has a perfect education system no poverty and no serious crime. the money wasted by the government towards getting rid of graffiti could be put to far better causes.
    you might think graffiti is ugly and a sign that society is falling to pieces but im sure u will find that the people with the guns and the drugs and the capitalist criminals are the ones doing the real harm to todays society
    so why dont you all run along and find something better to spend your time on rather than wasting it on trying to stop the unstoppable?

 

  • I think you are all pathetic losers with no life. Instead of trying to prevent the inevitable, educate your kids, stop your slut daughter from selling herself, get your sex addicted son off of drugs, and get your rapist husband off the streets. Graffiti is here forever you 69 year old losers.

 

  • You are an idiot.

 

  • GIVE UP!! theres always gonna be people who do this...the ONLY WAY TO ERADTICE GRAFFITI IS TO CUT THE HANDS OFF EVERYONE!! thats prolly the only way....seriously....haha good luck cutting my hands off.... officer campbell be a real cop and go catch some "thug gangsters" selling crack to 8 year olds or some rapists or something...i love the way you have the public thinking that all taggers are gangbaing uzi toting fools that jack peoples money and run around hurting people...this site is such bullshit....stop misinforming the public

     

  • graffiti will continue to scream out it's existence even after Bush's Nuclear Holocaust.....you know most of you conservative mutha****ers didn't care about all this graffiti until it came into your pretty, rich little neighborhoods..I bet you think we should keep graffiti in the ghettoes of the world...far from your little upper class eyes right...well F**K you....hip hop has helped spread our art...but there's writers out there who are not into hip hop...are you guys trying to blame hip hop for getting your kids into graffiti?...why don't you interact with your kids a little more..instead of interacting with these f**ken computers all day long trying to maintain this website......why aren't you dedicating a website about how the Heritage Foundation is controlling the US government...how Bush has a plan for a Nuclear Holocaust...the US government is ruled by thugs...the only difference between us writers and those in government is that we let the public see what is going on.....now go and do some research about the Heritage Foundation..instead of bullsh**ting with this site...Begin.MTA.....now why don't you spend some time with your kids instead of trying to be the one who's gonna stop graffiti........

 

  • dont you think its somewhat rediculous that you devote all this time tracking down 16 year old kids? do you go home to your family, show them a picture, and say, "you see this, i'm gonna catch this kid, mark my words"?

    why don't you fight real crime?
    suckers.

 
  • well mr randy campbell..first of all f*** YOU....and second, you F***ing PIG....graffiti is not dying...graffiti will be here even after you or I seize to exist.....all you are doing is making your heart problems more complicated..and making your life bitter...do you know why I post my messages....to laugh at you and the rest of the anti-graffiti crusaders...heheh.. it is called entertainment....and yes I am a vandal..and there will be many more vandals after me...has graffiti really gone down in your community?...pretty little rich upper class honkey neighborhood...graffiti will never die...but YOU on the other hand will die the death you deserve....as so shall I...but until that day comes..we are both stuck with each other...I know the differnce between good and bad.....and you sir are neither...I slap your face and challenge you to a duel...sincerely Begin MTA..now I gotta go I gotta go do some graffiti next to the police station and actually get paid for it....and get free paint..and guess what it's all thanks to city of los angeles and the average taxpayer....thank you mr randy campbell for this forum where we us "taggers"heheh can express our views...PIG!!!
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  • the day graffiti becomes legal or accepted is the day i quit forever.

 

  • 'ello all. this is my first post on this message board and it appears that all of you (even some graffiti writers, which is sad) don't understand that graffiti is art. it is not only art, but one of the rawest forms of art. our canvas is EVERYTHING, as vast as we want it to be, where we want it to be, and when we want it there. graf writers do not sit in their perfect little studio with their perfect lighting with a chair and eisel. we are on the street, under a bridge, in a subway tunnel, on a rooftop, and anywhere else our mind can imagine. we do not have perfect lighting, we might have the lighting of a flash light. we are looked at as criminals. WE ARE ARTISTS. we give the city character. well, if you got this far, then thank you for reading my opinion. i know it will go unappreciated, but i would still like to get responses, positive or negative. if you got this far, i would love you to read this piece written by the vapors:

    THE HAVES WILL NEVER SUBDUE THE PUBLIC VOICE

    they can write their names out of money on their glassy building walls. they can loom over us any damn day they wish and sing little songs that remind us of them everywhere we go. they can do all these things, but the voice of the individual is just footsteps away.

    these footseps will take you as far as your heart, into more desolate and dangerous places than you ever thought you'd step, just to write your name and let the gods know you cared. the haves will send armed men after you and they will strike and you must be prepared. but the numbers are on our side. from the highest rooftops the the dank tunnel passegeways, we will be heard. and we will scream as loud as we can, because we want you to remember this.

    like reading poetry once written in another language, graffiti losses something in its translation when it tries to win the affection of the haves. it is not to be taken more lightly than weaponry, because that is what it is. GRAFFITI IS OUR WAR. GRAFFITI IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE. that is why it works. -the vapors

     
  • graffiti is a american pastime and a subculture that will never die.

    you people that are anti-graffiti are just pouring gasoline on the fire,
    dont get me wrong i do applaud you people painting over graffiti to give us a clean space to write on.

    graffiti is in a art class of its own
    what would san francisco , los angeles, n.y.c or any other big city be without graffiti?
    if those cities had clean walls and no sign of graffiti dont you think that would make those cities a bit ... how can i say this.. BORING
    graffiti adds alot of charecter and rythym to the surfaces that it is on.

    by now you probably think im a cocky self centered graffiti vandal that has nothing better to do than to add a layer of spray paint or ink on a surface,
    but i dont mind at all.

    it seems alot of you think alot of graffiti writers have problems in there life or that they are angry people that are violent and are troubled teenagers or 'misguided artists' -as i read in some stupid article on this website.
    or our aim is to destroy public or personal property (by the way i dont support graffiti on personal property) our aim is simply to "get up"

    graffiti means alot to some people, so much that we're going to great lengths (risking arrest, prison time, injury, or even death) to do it, you think thats pointless and stupid right? well if you love the graffiti lifestyle as much as some graffiti writers do you'll do anything for it.


    and as a closing statement,
    you people are always complaining about the money spent on cleaning graffiti up (millions of dollars right)
    have you ever though about what else that money could have been spent on?
    helping people that cant afford hospital bills,
    food for homeless shelters, or anything else that the city really needs.

    is graffiti hurting anyone? yes its an eyesore to some but is it really enough to spend millions of tax dollars cleaning up? i think not, if you had a poll to see what citizens would do with there tax dollars i bet cleaning graffiti would be last on the list.

  • ..since when does grafitti/writing/bombing/tagging/getting up have to be justified?...most of the pro-graf post sound like spoiled-brats begging for acceptance...i have been in the game for 18 years and was active for 12...not once did i believe that what i was doing was right...when i did my thing i was worried about keeping my lines clean and that i didn't get jacked by cops...that is part of the game and keeps it pure...areosol art...yes it is art but it is also illegal...as it should be...legal walls and murals are great...but those of you who choose to stay underground and want to do your thing in the tradition of the giants in whose footprints you stand...realize that our art will never be legitimate in the eyes 95% of the population.

 

  • as a 25 year old father i still get the urge to bomb...and can't help but look at rooftops and underpasses and figure out ways to get up there...i guess we are just wired that way...but i think about that check i need every 2 weeks to feed my family and i supress the feeling...life sucksin someways...but that is also part of the game, maturity...lots of graff artist have developed into full fledged businessmen and women...look at PNB clothing, DOZE TC5, HAZE, CONART, and many others that have moved into web/graphic design, fine art, clothing and tatto art...as well as others like me that just became regular guys with 9-5's...some are more commited to the streets and go to any lenghts to stay up...like ***** from the 640MOB (i can't snitch on ya' tag baby boy!) who has been to the juvenile to the county and eventually to san quentin...for grafitti!...and i just saw a new ***** hit up yesterday!!!...life is all about choices...but when these kids posting now are grown and gone...kids who are 2 now will be here to take ther place.

 

  • graffit is art and you cant stop it.. been bombin the streets of dallas for the last 13 years and you fukas havint got me yet pretty fukin sad...... to the men in blue the kids are to illusive for you.... pigs!!!the kids can not be stoped!! to the men in blue have fun trying to catch us pigs..... love the kids

 

  • The issue of vandalism is very easily changed by the subject. Painting on someones car has an immediate and strong negative effect on someone. Painting on a train or a wall under a bridge has little or no effect on anyone. Im not saying that some graffiti is good and some is bad, im just saying that some indicates gang territories, and some doesn't. if people know that their neighborhood is not being claimed as gang territory it might make them feel better. i'd love to argue more but i am going to go paint some freights now.
    -yablo

 

  • its funny how you think you can stop graffiti....ive been painting for 6 years...i havent ever been caught....ive done 498 pieces...hahaha....you trying to stop it makes the game more fun....you dont kno y i paint...so just shut up and be glad im not dealing drugs like our corrupted us government....all the U.S. government is worse than us...so settle down and experience graffiti for what it is...ART!!!!!

 

  • I just wanted to say a big "***K YOU" in your general direction. Your site is a worthless piece of shit, a conglomeration of crap, if you will. You know NOTHING about art and what graffiti represents. Granted, not all graffiti looks good or appeals to everyone, but you cannot deny the fact that it is still an art form, and that most good graffiti artists are very passionate about their work and risk getting caught in the middle of the night in the cold, just to get their name up and display their skills. You're looking at it from a very narrow-minded point of view, and you suck because of it.

 

  • dear mr. anti graffiti even though you are dreaming about trying to put an end to a culture's way to express its views and creativity you can't do this because graffiti today is not only nation wide but world wide as well and highly popular. youre little anti graffiti campain is only making graffiti writers more aware of your efforts and now causeing them to create and reform new ways to do graffiti and express them selfes with out an up tight jack*ass tryin to screw it up!!!!! the only way to stop graffiti is to take every individual graff head and literally kill them...  come on do you really think we are going to stop just cause some whinny *ss anti graffiti chump says its wrong and vandalism!!!!
    yeah right that is the whole reason graffiti is so strong today because we dont give a **ck
    what other people say about us or what people try and do by taking unessasary
    actions that are just usless and a waste of time so save you breath close your site and go on about your life becasue you cant stop the graffiti movement that has been alive and kicking for thirty five years strong...

    you can't stop us!!!!!
    your graffiti activist and tagger slash vandal 
    menaceone 

 

  • Added 11/23/00

  • all you anti Graffiti hayers should all suc* a *ick all or I should say all you anti art punk *ss mutha F****ers so just leave wtiters alone and go back to milking your cows you damn red necks.  DRESM ONE DBS out

     

  • is it our fault you cant appricaite art or just you dont know what art is a I bet if was like a recreation of one salvador Dahlis  painting you wouid'nt have a problem we do ti on the strrets cuse you aint never gonna put a piece in an art gallery !

     

  • I believe that graffity isnt a crime is an art form wich you people need to apriaciate more Dresm One DBS Im out

     

  • this website is a joke. yall dont know shiz-nit about art. and quit calling it tagging you dumb ****z!!!!!!

     

  • anti = fools who dont appreciate art

     

  • oh dear it looks like the ignorant anti graf masses have been beaten. graffiti is an art and doesnt have to be connected with all crime. there is also a big difference between real graffiti and what the public percieve it to be.

 

  • Added 11/20/00
  • I admire your dedication but really sir, resistance is futile. People have been graphically depicting the story of their lives upon walls for thousands of years and will go on doing so until humanity ceases to exist. Everybody does it, Coca-Cola has been taggin' up my city for years - detracting from public spaces. What, they have money so they can mess with the aesthetics of my city but the people who are the city are not allowed to contribute? Your little anti-graf site would be quite a laugh if it wasn't so tragic. The time you waste with this web site could be better spent cleaning up your neighborhood but you are a wanker . Too fat from too many burritos to get out from behind the computer.. You are aren't you.. FAT WHITE MIDDLE-CL*ass GOD FEARIN' AMERICAN..I PITY YOU

 

  • please stop this, you are just making it worse for you and others. graffiti will not harm anyone, and you will keep on convincing yourself that you can actually solve the "problem".i'm sorry, this will not happen. you are useless and ignorant.

     

  • I don't mind graffiti. People who do this are artists. Media is constantly bombarding the publics attention also, so why not complain about that too. I think anti graffiti is hypocrasy because everyone does graffiti, except in different ways. You people should most definitely get a life....I can't believe you'd take the time to actually make a site against the world's largest youth art organization....Get a life you bloody wankaz!...Bliza1er

     

  • HEY! if you wanna see REAL taggin', come to bordesley green, Birmingham. I think graffitti is good because there is nothing else to do in brum and to some of the hardcore taggers in brum, graffitti is their lives. It keeps kids amused

     

  • **** you! If anything people of the world would be with all the hard working artists of this world. We'd out number all the antigraffitiests. Just because you can't tag, doesn't show to waste your time putting up a ****ing anti graffiti site. Screw you

     

  • pic*asso once said "every act of distruction is an act of creation"

     

  • **** you lame *ss loosers you will never ever win against us

     

  • I must disagree with claims that graffiti is not art. Art is what you make it to be, it is wrong to mark on private property and down right insensitive. But as far as the "property" of the city which neglects its youth, by all means BOMBS AWAY!!

     

  • YOU are winning? That's almost as stupid as saying prohibition worked. Making something illegal doesn't mean people will stop doing it. You should've learned from your mistakes,silly mistaken people Try to understand graffiti before trying to kill it

     

  • Ever see something like "JAck+Mandy" surrounded by a heart? Thats graff too, but you ppl dont complain about that. If someone did a huge one of those, would it be ok then?

     

  • noone believes in you or what you do, or simply they don't care. putting aside the morality problem (you have no right to say graffiti is morally incorrect), the fact is that neither you nor your pathetic efforts will change anything. believe me.

     

  • just like i don't talk badly about the inefficiency of law (i know nothing about it), you should stop making fools of yourselves talking about stuff you don't know. you are ignorant and prejudiced an noone believes in you, not even yourselves.

     

  • Added 10/27/00
  • it is so f u c k e d that you guys are trying to kill the youth's artwork!!!!!!!!! I am just starting tagging (im 13) and im not that into tagging everything but i'm forced to be cause there arent any freewalls you are talking about. Now I'll just end up in jail

 

  • Vandals?? Ha ha, you guys have to be kidding...most of our murals and pieces look alot better than some of the stuff Van Goghs.  Look at the graph, were winning this war, if that is what you  would like to call it...REST one, WAK, wash DC...represent

 

  • pOrtugal represent i am going to stick up a *ick uP you *asss filhos da puta!!!!!!!

 

  • WHY DONT YOU WORRY ABOUT STARVING PEOPLE OR HOMICIDES INSTEAD OF FUN ART YOU ****ING *ickS......tR oNeZ 2000 NeW yOrK WAAAAAAAA U WAK *ass PIGZ

 

  • Its really a shame what you are doing! What did you do when you where growing up? And wonder if i wanted to snatch that from you? You would be down right angry! Like it or not its art and its something a lot more people support than this site.

 

  • my ratio can't explain it but I'll always have the urge to write on anything, and hey, anything illegal is 1000 times the fun

 

  • Graffiti kicks *ass!!! Don't you have anything better to do than trying to enforce your beliefs on others?

 

  • graffiti rules, you suc*!

 

  • you are the perfect example of a stupid person, you know nothing about graffiti and u waste time critizising it **** OFF!!! GRAFFITI RULES!!!!!!!

 

  • hahahahah *assholes!!!!!!! graffiti rules!!!! destroy da city!!!!!!!!!!!! yeeeeeeeeeeeess!!!!! u faggots!! motha ****as!!! bitches"!!!!!it is undescriptible your stupidity

 

  • The streets belong to the public, not the government. Graffiti is ARTistic expression where it is needed most, in public view. Quit locking up the art and the artists!

 

  • ha ha, there u go!!! some ****ing antigraffiti trying to destroyt the art but we wont let them!!!right??? the grafitti is the key to communication!!! & somthing alse:i will kill all u mother****ers antigraffiti!!!

 

  • WE ARE UNSTOPABLE AND UNTOUCHABLE , GRAFFITI IS THE NEW MOVEMENT FROM THE STREETS!!, DESTROY THE INSTITUTIONALIZE ART SYSTEM!!, YOU ANTI - GRAFFITI FACISTS ARE TRYING TO INDICT MARTIAL LAW, IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN WHILE THERE ARE FREE-THINKERS

 

  • Added 10/18/00
  • graffit is not vandlism its an artistic form of expression that is not tollerated beause the people who do it are a minority.


  • GRAFITTI WILL BE HERE FOREVER....CAUSE WERE GONNA KEEP IT UP NO MATTER HOW MANY OF YOU SHMUCKS ARE OUT THERE CLEANING IT UP!!

 

  • HAH THIS FUKIN SITE IS WORST THAN A NELLY SOUNDTRACK TO CINDERELLA!...U FUKIN RICH WHITE FUKS NEED TO GO BACK TO YA SUBURBS AND STAY THERE LET US DO WHAT WE WANT IN OUR OWN TOWN..AND STOP USING GRAFF IN YOUR RICH WHITE COMMERCIALS -SPEN GW-

 

  • Added 10/16/00
  • graffiti is not vandalism it is a beautiful crime
 
  • Added 10/13/00
  • to hell with your tired values, let the kids have there fun
 
  • Graffiti Rules, this site is full of krap. Why do you waste your time? Vandalizing isnt too cool on its own, but graffiti is art, and unluess yer gonna give us free walls you arent helping anyone
 
  • Nimek Oner of the 17 Mekanikal Minds. You fags needa shut the **** up. You are too damn ignorant to see that graphitti is a form of art. I'de like to knock some ****ing sense into your head
    bitch.
 
  • Added 10/11/00
    Pieces and tags r REAL art, along with painting and sculptures in museums. Thing is you anti graffit guys forget that when new art styles came in during the renniasence, the artists were shunned for painting naked poeple, but now that artis PRICELESS

 

  • if u read this you are fat and gay

 

  • Graffiti is ART, not vandalism. Too bad some people are too ignorant to figure that out. Its really sad.

 

  • I bet that you(a.k.a. the fagggot pussy ****ing bastard that made this site) has a boy friend that suc*s your cock and he is against it, and sence he suc*s your *ick you go along with this ANTI-Graffiti bull****, **** YOU... by:Vortex

 

  • Added 10/10/00
  • graffiti is my life, one life, one fight ..graffiti is a worldwide organisation.. You can't destroy a cultur with fu**ing stupid  pages like this!!!!!!!!!

 

  • you suc* fat cocks you anti-graffiti bitches I am a graffiti artist"..kep-two.." so you can all suc* my cock

 

  • For most of your overweight average americans, graffiti means one thing...senseless destructive vandalism without purpose perpetuated by either spoiled rich kids looking for cheap thrills or gangbanging hoodlums trying to encroach on this nations law

 

  • If anything, you fat *ass average americans are the real vandals of the earth with your rampant consumerism and gluttenous appetites. **** you all, I am an ARTIST and don't you forget it

 

  • graff will never fade, and to all you herbs trying to stop it--eat a big fat d@#k and a side    order of balls. ya heard. def style crew

 

  • Added 10/1/00
  • You damn *assholes are just wasting your time, man. I mean, who the **ck
    would actually sit there wasting their time on doing up a little shitty
    websites talking about stuff that you don't even know about. I can
    understand if you jack*asses are making some kind of a profit(which is still
    nuff dumb), but to make it some kind of a world crisis is just jokes man. 
    You lot need to get your head fixed up and do a bit more homework before
    you put this kind of shit up. You just like my parents who are just so
    ignorant and only live like lemmings and do whatever the shit that the
    shitty British goverment tells them to. I mean if they asked them to jump
    off a cliff would they do that? GIves us a break man you are behaving more
    like kids than us writers man.

 

  • u fools suc*...ur never gonna fight tagging...were gonna bomb ur house...were gonna bomb ur car....and you cant do sh** about it...so i suggest giving up now and let us crues bomb globally!!!peace..

 

  • u guys are making graffiti to big of a deal...all it is, is expressing your art...its not vandalism for God sake........why dont u idiots focus on school shootings or underage drug use..u guys are stupid and are wasting ur time.

 

  • i was outraged when i read the statements you make on your page, why isn't graffiti an art?k because it's illegal??!!  **ck the law.   every law is fascist because someone punish me if i don't do what they say. a boring grey wall looks much better  with colour on it and the walls not broken, it's merely changed! i can only see it positive that youth express artistic  talents instead of smoking crack. an advertisement poster is ugly why can they change a wall? because they pay  for it? the law is only here to oppress you and the violence machine of the so called "free" state is growing ever  more. so **ck you **ck the police and **ck authorities life is too short to go around being a bitch and even though god  is waiting he's not letting everyone in ,fascist!  respond if you think i'm wrong.

 

  • ok. i really don't wanna offend you. no. wrong. i want to. because the simplicity of the words i read on  your homepages really OFFEND ME. but i think it's not worth writing down as many bad words as i could. i don't know how i found your site and it really doesn't matter. but i checked it out and i must say  the design n all that is one of the worst i ever seen. but again, that doesn't matter. i just said it because i read titles like 'creating killer websites' or something. all the commercialized banner crap, the webrings n stuff are REALLY killing me. ok. i read some things about you, i visited your girls pages (love 'em. thats webdesign). and i must say after reading things about you i more and more got the feeling that i hate your life. full of 'averageness' (sorry for my bad english... i'm german) i don't wanna discuss with you. because  you don't know ANYTHING. i can't understand how people can be as intolerant as you and all the people  behind you, holding up this propaganda-site-network. but there are some things i HAVE TO say. first thing is, you and your sick friends will NEVER. i repeat, NEVER stop us. why? easy! cause youre lame. (no real offense - perhaps it's not true) you sit in front of your pc, alone with your bits'n'bytes and the few  things you believe in. what do you believe in? god? america? democracy? man? what the **ck??  why can't you try to see what we see. we're young. some of us want fun. just searching for the next dose of adrenaline. but some, and i know many of them, believe in the possibility to change society with their/our art. we don't use violence. we do not kill people. we do not offend. BUT we DO think. we DO learn. we're not stupid sick kids trying to destroy. surely there ARE kids that just search for a 'cheap  thrill' but not all of us think and act this way... i can't support people who just tag around in their  neighbourhood without feeling the spirit of freedom deep in their hearts. but i understand them. who is giving me a future? who has my back? **ck it! most of the young people DON'T HAVE A FUTURE. what do you want them to do? selling drugs to your (surely well educated) children? killing people? or isn't it better to help them or at least leaving them alone and leave them their try to get rid of their agressions by doing agressive ART?! why don't you try to build up a page which shows both sides? but the only thing you GIVE is a network of very similair sites. all of them got a single purpose: propaganda. it's crazy. i  can't believe it. on the home-page of nograffiti.com there is this question: "Are you Pro or Anti Graffiti-VANDALISM?" why don't you (or whoever did this crappy page) ask "Are you Pro or Anti Graffiti?"  Why Vandalism? WHY? Thats's propaganda in it's purest form. i don't know whether you get the point... i  can't say what you know and how much you really believe in what they say, in what you say...?! but it wouldn't be wrong to reply to this mail.  bye! trx-1 or matr'x. living my art for three years now. btw. this mail includes the "freedom of speech" and "freedom of thought" viruses. these viruses COULD  destroy your system.  know what we (the vandalists) say when greeting each other? PEACE!

 

  • I am tired so I will be brief. My name is Nathan Platt from Portland, Maine in school at the University of  Richmond. I have found your site to be very disturbing and oppressive, being a painter myself, and I will tell you why. Often spraypainting is the only resource that kids have to expel their innate creative urge to  represent thought visually; all that aside graffiti is the most underappreciated art in existence. GO to  www.artcrime.com and I hope you get the idea. To stop such that you are is oppressive and narrow and I  hope that that you will look past the hollowness of societal appearance into the talent and beauty of the  very thing you are so avidly against. Thank you for getting this far if you did.

 

  • **ck YOU!!! you **ckin idiot, what kind of looser makes an anti graffiti site? And u think its funny for a graffiti artist to go to prison what a **cking idiot, sure its wrong what they do but to get charged with a larger sentence than a rapeist thats **cked up,I hope you **cking die u cock suc*er **ck YOU!!

 

  • u guys are making graffiti to big of a deal...all it is, is expressing your art...its not vandalism for God sake........why dont u idiots focus on school shootings or underage drug use..u guys are stupid  and are wasting ur time.

 

  • u fools suc*...ur never gonna fight tagging...were gonna bomb ur               house...were gonna bomb ur car....and you cant do sh** about it...so i suggest giving up now and let us crues bomb globally!!!peace..

 

  • WHY DO I WRITE GRAFFITI? I WRITE GRAFFITI TO PISS PEOPLE OFF LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALREADY REJECTED PEOPLE LIKE ME OUT OF SOCIETY. PEOPLE LIKE YOU MAKE ME LOVE GRAFFITI EVEN MORE IT MAKES ME WANT TO BOMB MORE AND TAG EVEN MORE. SO YOUR LITTLE WEBSITE JUST MAKES ME HAVE THE FIRE FROM WITHIN TO GO OUT AND BOMB MORE. AND IF YOUR STUPID LITTLE *ass WOULD LOOK AT ART CRIME YOU WOULD SEE THAT MOST OF THE GRAFFITI ON THAT WEBSITE IS LEGAL AND PERMITTED. SO **ck OFF AND STOP PICKING ON THEM. YOU ARE JUST PISSED OFF BECAUSE ALL THROUGH YOUR SMALL LIFE NO ONE LIKES YOU AND NOBODY WILL EVER LIKE A PIECE OF SHIT LIKE YOU.

 

  • You anti-graffiti vandalists should stop whining about things as petty as graffiti. Worry about real things you babies! It's people like you who bring the human species one step closer every day to destruction.

 

  • All of you people complaining about graffiti are just a bunch of hillbillies or descendants of hillbillies who have less brains than insects.(OOh, and insects don't even have brains, they just have a network of nerves, HaHaHaHa!)

 

  • THIS IS REAL ART WEATHER U LIKE IT OR NOT U CANT STOP US          GRAFFITI WILL NEVER DIE U SAY ITS DESTRUCTIVE BUT IT IS               POSSITIVE WE COULD BE OUT SELLING DRUGS OR ROBBING YOUR    GRANDMA BUT ME AND MY FRIENDS CHOOSE TO DO SOMETHING      GOOD FOR MY HOOD

 

  • graffiti is a form of art that is not understood in the older generation of people. i do not agree with vandalism at all. there are more actions that need to take place to stop vandalism... we need to put up more legal graffiti walls

 

  • U CALL US CAWARDS BUT IF U STEP TO WHILE IM EXPRESSING MY SELF I WILL STAY,  KICK YOUR *ass AND THEN FINISH MY xxxx               AND GO ON LIKE NOTHING HAPPEND

 

  • graffiti is a more difficult art form than any thing you sukaz could pump out........as well as contributing to degentrafication...the idea of lowering property values so that peoples of a lower cl*ass can live in nicer areas.....you are capitalist

 

  • It's all about outlet. If you do not allow or give these people an outlet for thier artistic endeavors, they will find an outlet. Offer them an area to create, and they will take that route. stomp on them, and you build defiance and unrest.

 

  • graffiti is a form of art, not a crime. It's only a crime when people like you deny the right for artists to express their opinions.

 

  • To vote for or against graffiti is a bit like voting for and against a religion. Graffiti is a culture and a way of life which governments have tried to suppress for generations because it does not conform to the expected way of life within society.

 

  • Please use common sense and consideration when applying stickers or other       propaganda materials.  Giant is designed to provoke thought about the mechanics of the system we live in...not to destroy it.  Everyone has to live here.  Plus there are extreme individuals who wish to label all street artist as vandals and push for harsher and harsher penalties and prosecution.  These people are very organized and lobby for public support.  To counteract their attempts to vilify street artist, the street artist community needs to befriend local arts councils, graphic arts organizations, and anyone and everyone with political power who could be sympathetic to artists who have no sanctioned public venue to express themselves.  The cities build tennis courts, basketball courts, football fields, even skate parks at millions of dollars cost to the taxpayer.  Where are the public mural walls?  It's all about control of the public space.  If the opponents of street art are the only ones who speak out then they will be the only ones who are listened to.  We need to fight fire with fire and express ourselves intelligently.  If we don't come across as a bunch of vandals we may find that the silent majority is actually supportive of public artistic expression.  Check out the following letter to see where they area coming from. Graffiti is an art it gives our youth something more to do they are using their minds and abilities instead of wasting their brains on drugs you can't produce if your brain is reduced, let our youth expand we are growing our intelligence is expanding

 

  • Graffiti is a way of life, it is a job, it needs to be done, graff is art, art is work, work creates, creation grows, cities are built the art is produced, graff is the design the building is the tablet the city is the audience, Graffiti lives!

 

  • YOU CANT STOP US, WE ARE YOUR FUTURE RIGHT, WELL YOUR FUTURE WILL WRITE,OH YES, WE WILL. PERMISSION OR NOT!!::MenacE.TMKIF YOUR PRO ART WRITE ME @ ALPHABREAKER911 TURBO@MAILCITY.COM WE WILL NOT PHADE

 

  • Graffiti is one of the most expressive and creative forms of art the world has ever seen. The destruction of your communities comes not from the artists who work to enhance it, but from the big businesses that have turned you all into confomists. SC16

 

  • Graffiti is art, self-expression hurts no one; VANDALISM: as beautiful as a rock in a cops face

 

  • Graffiti is a art, and it should not be destroyed by the likes of you... People who are against graffiti is an oppressor, trying to stop people from doing art... But don’t worry... you’ll grow out of it. People are always afraid of new things... Peace

 

  • Graffiti is art: soon there'll be nothing you whiney *ass old farts can do about it. Stop the repression of free thought.

 

  • I’m most likely smarter than you, and would be happy to prove it anytime...you can't stop it, because the more you try, the more it will rise above...my kids will be brought up to love graffiti art. peace.

 

  • Put your energy in something useful, like fighting REAL crime  (politicians). I can't afford a press so I use a wall!

 

  • OK goodie-do-gooders it's against the law. Not MY law, some rich religious *asshole's law

 

  • You don't even know what Graffiti is about and that Graffiti has a very strong cultural background and that Graffiti isn't about vandalism or destroying things but that it is an art form for many people to express themselves.

 

  • graffiti is art, thus why try and eliminate it? it is hypricital to destroy one form of art while promoting another. if one wants to get rid of graffiti then they should also destroy pic*assos, miros etc

 

  • Graffiti is merely a colorful form of self expression, it hurts no one and nine times out of ten is truly beautiful.

 

  • graffiti is not what i consider vandalism. vandalism is breaking windows and smashing stuff. im a im not into that stuff, im a good vandal. when i see my tags and graf it makes me proud to see it because thats the way i express myself.it is art.

 

  • there are obvious cultural and social problems that lead to and are reinforced by expression such as graffiti. However, these pale in  comparision to the a boring and lifless world where no body ever dared to express themselves.

 

  •  From: steve@BackBayBeat.com
     To: slomo
     
     First off, I want to give you credit for putting together a
     pretty extensive website. If I were an opponent of graffiti or
     any kind of vandalism for that matter, which I am not, I would
     find a lot of useful information here.
     
     But on the flip side, a war on graffiti will accomplish just
     about as much as the war on drugs did. TWIST THR in San
     Francisco put it best when he said that the current state of
     graffiti abatement in America is similar to putting a band-aid
     on a deep gash that requires stitches. I find it hillarious that
     lawmakers and public citizens actually believe stricter
     penalties and increased enforcement will stop a child, young
     adult or adult from defacing property.
     
     I look at myself for example. I have a degree in journalism from
     a nationally accredited four-year university, have a great job
     with great benefits and great pay, my own place and a strong
     family background devoid of infidelity, substance and physical
     abuse and lack of affection etc.
     
     But I gotta tell you, if i have a little bit of liquor in me,
     there is nothing on this planet that will stop me from grabbing
     a rock from the streets and scribing my name on AT LEAST 50-75
     windows. I show no bias in regards to my vandalism, small
     businesses, homes, churches, large corporations whatever.
     
     Look, I understand your disdain for graff and I am pretty sure
     if we didn't cost cities and towns so much god damn money you
     would appreciate it from a legal standpoint. I also understand
     that adding stats and figures to the site is simply a feeble
     attempt to convince your allies and foes that graff is on the
     decline and the balance of power in the game is shifting.
     
     Contrary to popular belief, Graff writers or Vandals are not
     intellectually inferior. Spending a lot of time by yourself in
     the middle of the night kicks the brain into high gear and
     leaves a ton of room for mind expansion. If a writer is
     accustomed to bombing a certain area and sees it keeps getting
     buffed, he or she will just find another place to paint. Not
     that it takes smarts to figure that one out. It's actually
     pretty instinctive. But what a writer will do is devise a proper
     strategy to combat the evil forces surrounding him.
     
     In the end however, it becomes a power struggle between rich
     neigborhoods which can afford to constantly buff graff out and
     the poor inner-city neigborhoods who have more important things
     to worry about in life than some kid painting his name on a wall
     in their area.
     
     So believe what you want, for every graff writer who gets
     busted, another 100 sprout up to rally around him. Same goes for
     clean walls. For every one that gets buffed, another one gets
     hit. Take Boston for example. According to court and police
     records, which of course are made available to the public,
     states that only a little over 30 writers have been "busted" for
     destruction or defacing property ie “tagging”
     
     Not a bad number, but only three of those writers have spent
     more than a day in jail and fined over 250 bucks. But that’s not
     the best part. The best part is that there are currently over
     250 different tags in or around the city of Boston, not counting
     the outside suburbs. You do the math. So who’s winning?
     
     I am only 25 years old and I am in tremendous shape because I
     don't allow the outside world to bring me down to its inferior
     level. In other words, you will be dead and buried years after
     it's my turn to go, and for some reason I have a feeling that
     like myself, destruction of public and private property via
     Spray Paint will be alive and kicking when you are rotting away
     in a grave six feet under.